Altercare Of Bucyrus Center Fo
1929 Whetstone Street, Bucyrus, OH 44820 · For profit - Corporation · 80 certified beds · (419) 562-7644 Medicare & Medicaid certified
The public record raises real questions here. Weigh the concerns below carefully.
- a middle-of-the-pack inspection score (3/5)
- fewer deficiencies at its most recent standard inspection than at the one before — a sign of improvement
- it has a citation for its abuse-prevention policies, restraint use, or reporting and investigating of allegations (F0609) — cited below the harm level, meaning inspectors found the process wanting but did not find a resident harmed
- it has a citation for mishandling residents’ money or property (F0567)
- it has 1 actual-harm citation
- inspectors recorded 1 serious finding as past non-compliance — the problem was found, fixed, and verified before the survey closed, so it is history rather than a current condition, but it is still worth asking what changed
- a high number of inspection citations overall (17) — worth reading through, though larger and more-often-surveyed homes tend to accrue more lower-severity tags
- the CMS record shows $26,685 in federal fines (most recent 2026-01-07)
- its facility-reported quality-measure score sits well above its independent inspection score
- its payroll-based staffing rating is low (2/5)
One thing this read cannot see: what residents and families actually experience day to day. Public data misses the feel of a place — visit unannounced, ideally at a mealtime or on a weekend, talk to staff and families, and ask your tour questions.
A plain-English summary of the public record below — not a rating, ranking, or recommendation. We take no money from any facility.
| Health inspectionSurveyor-assigned, ranked within your stateInspector-verified | 3 of 5 |
| StaffingFrom payroll records (PBJ) | 2 of 5 |
| Quality measuresSelf-reported by the facility | 5 of 5 |
Worth a closer look. This home's quality-measure rating runs 2 stars above its independent health-inspection score. The inspection is done by state surveyors; the quality-measure score leans on data the facility reports about itself — so a gap this large is worth reading the inspection record for.
Location & what’s nearby
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Quality measures — how residents actually fare
| Overall quality measures | 5 of 5 |
| Long-stay residentspeople who live here | 5 of 5 |
| Short-stay residentsrehab / post-hospital | 4 of 5 |
Quality-measure stars summarize outcomes CMS tracks from the assessments each home submits — avoidable hospitalizations and ER visits, falls with injury, pressure ulcers, unplanned weight loss, and long-term antipsychotic use. Because the underlying data is self-reported, weigh a high score against the independent inspection record. Long-stay = permanent residents; short-stay = rehab and post-hospital stays.
Trend — is this home getting better or worse?
Over 2025-02 to 2026-06, this home’s CMS overall rating held steady at 4 stars. From monthly CMS archive snapshots.
Horizontal axis runs 2025-02 to 2026-06. That is where CMS’s monthly archive ends, so the right-hand edge of each line is that month — not today.
See all quality measures vs. state & national benchmarks
| Measure | This home | State avg | Typical state | vs typical state |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Long-stay residents whose need for help with daily activities increased | 6.0% | 5.3% | 15.4% | worse than state‡ — see note marked double-dagger below the table |
| Long-stay residents who lose too much weight | 4.7% | 6.2% | 5.4% | better |
| Long-stay residents with a catheter left in their bladder | 0.0% | 0.2% | 0.9% | better than state‡ — see note marked double-dagger below the table |
| Long-stay residents with a urinary tract infection | 0.0% | 0.4% | 2.0% | better than state‡ — see note marked double-dagger below the table |
| Long-stay residents with depressive symptoms | 10.0% | 30.1% | 6.5% | better than state‡ — see note marked double-dagger below the table |
| Long-stay residents who were physically restrained | 0.0% | 0.1% | 0.1% | better |
| Long-stay residents with falls causing major injury | 3.3% | 3.2% | 3.3% | typical |
| Long-stay residents whose ability to walk worsened | 4.5% | 6.1% | 16.1% | better than state‡ — see note marked double-dagger below the table |
| Long-stay residents on antianxiety or hypnotic medication | 22.5% | 25.5% | 18.9% | worse |
| Long-stay residents given the seasonal flu vaccine | 100.0% | 94.5% | 95.3% | typical |
| Long-stay residents with pressure ulcers | 4.7% | 3.4% | 4.7% | typical |
| Long-stay residents with worsening bladder/bowel control | 21.4% | 21.4% | 21.2% | typical |
| Long-stay residents who got an antipsychotic medication§ — see the note below the table | 0.5% | 8.8% | 17.1% | better |
| Short-stay residents who newly got an antipsychotic medication | 0.0% | 1.2% | 1.4% | better |
| Short-stay residents given the seasonal flu vaccine | 87.8% | 75.6% | 79.4% | better |
| Short-stay residents rehospitalized after admission | 25.6% | 24.9% | 22.6% | worse |
| Short-stay residents with an outpatient ER visit | 13.7% | 12.9% | 12.0% | worse |
| Long-stay hospitalizations per 1,000 resident days | 0.80 | 1.73 | 1.67 | better |
| Long-stay outpatient ER visits per 1,000 resident days | 1.30 | 1.80 | 1.80 | better |
‡ On this measure the state average is at least twice (or half) the typical state — a gap that size is usually how the state codes and reports the measure, not how its homes actually perform. Against a benchmark this state does not sit on, a “vs typical state” verdict would mostly be measuring the state, so we compare this home with its own state instead and show both averages.
§ Antipsychotics carry an FDA boxed warning — they raise the risk of death in older people with dementia-related psychosis, and are not approved for that use. So this measure is partly a read on whether a home sedates residents instead of staffing for them. But read a low rate carefully in both directions: CMS excludes residents coded with schizophrenia (and Tourette's or Huntington's) from this measure, and federal auditors have found implausible increases in schizophrenia coding since the measure was published — so a very low rate can reflect recoding rather than less prescribing. Ask the home what share of its residents carry a schizophrenia diagnosis, and how it handles behavioral symptoms without medication.
CMS quality measures, as Care Compare shows them. For most rows lower is better (fewer falls, ulcers, hospitalizations); vaccination rates are the exception. Not every row is risk-adjusted. CMS adjusts some measures for resident mix, but falls with major injury, antipsychotic use, physical restraints and the vaccination rates are unadjusted rates — so a home caring for heavier or more behaviorally complex residents can look worse on them without providing worse care. The “typical state” column is the median of the 50 state averages — not a national average of all homes. We use it because a plain average across homes is pulled badly off course by a few states’ reporting habits (long-stay depressive symptoms is the clearest case: Illinois codes it several times higher than most states, which alone lifted the all-homes figure to about twice what a typical state records). The median of state averages resists that — but it does weigh every state equally, so a large state counts no more than a small one, and it is a benchmark of our construction rather than a CMS-published figure. better/worse means the home differs from that benchmark by more than 10% of it; closer than that reads typical. CMS does not publish how many residents each measure covers, and the counts are often small — a single resident can move a rate by several points — so treat small gaps as noise. These come from data the facility reports, so weigh them against the independent inspection record above.
Short-stay rehab — if you are coming here from a hospital
Arriving from a hospital right now? Read the discharge guide → — your appeal rights, how to slow a rushed discharge, and what to ask about the numbers below.
60.4% of the Medicare patients who left this home got back to the community and stayed there for at least 31 days — CMS rates that better than the national rate. This is CMS’s risk-adjusted rate over 104 Medicare stays in Oct 2022–Sep 2024, and CMS’s own comparison — not ours.
Met the expected recovery: 64.7% of this home’s Medicare short-stay residents left it at or above the ability to care for themselves and move around that CMS predicted for them, across 51 stays in Oct 2024–Sep 2025. The median of the 11,061 homes CMS publishes this for is 56.6%. Read it beside the getting-home figure, not instead of it: unlike the two measures above, CMS makes no better-or-worse call on this one and publishes no confidence interval for it, so this is a comparison and not a verdict — but it is the short-stay measure that separates homes most, and the one to ask about.
Therapy staffing: this home’s payroll records show 0.29 therapist hours per resident per day in 2026Q1 — more than 46% of the 13,892 homes that report any therapy hours at all.
Weekend therapy: weekend therapy hours are 6% of this home’s weekday level — it runs some therapy at the weekend, at a lower level than on weekdays. The median home that reports therapy runs 13% — weekday-focused therapy is the industry norm, not a shortfall. But recovery does not pause on a Saturday: ask what the weekend actually looks like here.
This section is about rehab stays, not living here. Most of this page — the stars, the quality measures, the inspection record — describes the home the way a permanent resident experiences it. These figures describe the short Medicare stay after a hospital discharge: a hip, a stroke, a bad infection, six weeks and home. They are different residents, different staff, often a different wing. Therapy hours are per resident in the building, not per rehab patient — the count includes every long-stay resident, and they mostly get no therapy at all. So a home with a small rehab wing inside a large nursing population reads low here even if its rehab patients get plenty of therapy, and a mostly-rehab home reads high. Use it to compare homes doing similar work, ask what a rehab resident actually gets in a day, and remember that CMS does not publish therapy minutes per patient — nobody does.
See every short-stay measure CMS publishes for this home
| Measure | This home | U.S. median | Period covered | CMS’s call |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Got home and stayed homeRate of successful return to home or community from a SNF | 60.4%CMS range 53.9–68.4 | 51.5% | Oct 2022–Sep 2024 | better than U.S. |
| Went back to hospitalRate of potentially preventable hospital readmissions 30 days after discharge from a SNF | 10.4%CMS range 8.0–15.2 | 10.7% | Oct 2022–Sep 2024 | no different from U.S. |
| Met the expected recoveryPercentage of residents who are at or above an expected ability to care for themselves and move around at discharge | 64.7% | 56.6% | Oct 2024–Sep 2025 | CMS makes no comparison for this measure |
| Self-care at dischargePercentage of residents who are at or above an expected ability to care for themselves at discharge | 54.9% | 52.8% | Oct 2024–Sep 2025 | CMS makes no comparison for this measure |
| Moving around at dischargePercentage of residents who are at or above an expected ability to move around at discharge | 58.8% | 50.0% | Oct 2024–Sep 2025 | CMS makes no comparison for this measure |
| Medication problems followed upPercentage of residents whose medications were reviewed and who received follow-up care when medication issues were identified | 100.0% | 98.7% | Oct 2024–Sep 2025 | CMS makes no comparison for this measure |
| Medication list to the next providerPercentage of residents where the SNF provided a current medication list to the next health care setting | 100.0% | 100.0% | Oct 2024–Sep 2025 | CMS makes no comparison for this measure |
| Medication list to the familyPercentage of residents where the SNF provided a current medication list to the resident, family, and/or caregiver at final discharge | 100.0% | 98.7% | Oct 2024–Sep 2025 | CMS makes no comparison for this measure |
| Falls with major injuryPercentage of SNF residents who experience one or more falls with major injury during their SNF stay | 0.0% | 0.0% | Oct 2024–Sep 2025 | CMS makes no comparison for this measure |
| New or worsened pressure ulcersPercentage of residents with pressure ulcers/pressure injuries that are new or worsened | 1.4% | 1.9% | Oct 2024–Sep 2025 | CMS makes no comparison for this measure |
| Infections that led to hospitalPercentage of infections residents got during their SNF stay that resulted in hospitalization | 5.9%CMS range 3.2–9.7 | 7.1% | Oct 2023–Sep 2024 | no different from U.S. |
| Medicare spending per stayMedicare Spending Per Beneficiary (MSPB) for residents in SNFs | 0.90 | 1.02 | Oct 2022–Sep 2024 | CMS makes no comparison for this measure |
From the CMS Skilled Nursing Facility Quality Reporting Program — Medicare short-stay outcomes, which is a different dataset from the long-stay quality measures above and describes a different set of residents. Where CMS risk-adjusts a measure we show its adjusted rate, and the CMS range beside it is the confidence interval CMS publishes: a home whose range is wide is a home with few stays, where one patient moves the number several points. Read the period column. These measures do not share a window — the claims-based ones (getting home, readmission, spending) lag by a year or more, because a stay has to finish and its claims settle before it can be counted. CMS’s call is CMS’s, not ours: it is the only place anyone tests whether this home differs from the national rate at all, and most homes on most measures do not. Two caveats on it. CMS tests only three of these measures — getting home, readmission, and infections that led to hospital; on the other nine it publishes a rate and no comparison, and rather than compute a verdict CMS declined to make, we say so in the column. And on readmission almost every home in the country lands on “no different”, so that row separates homes far less than getting-home does — which is why met the expected recovery, a measure CMS does not test but which spreads across the whole range, is called out above the table rather than left in this list. The U.S. median column is our own, taken across every home CMS publishes that measure for in this same file; it is not a CMS-published benchmark. Homes CMS gives no rate for are left out of it rather than counted as zero. Medicare spending per stay is a ratio, not a percentage — 1.00 means this home’s Medicare spending for a stay matched the national figure CMS compares it against, and it measures cost to Medicare, not quality of care.
Staffing
How full it usually is: this home is certified for 80 beds and averages 66.2 residents a day — about 83% occupied, or roughly 14 beds typically open. It usually has some room. This is a CMS average, not live availability — no public source publishes real-time vacancies, and a home can be full the day you call. Confirm with the home, and if you need a Medicaid bed specifically, ask about that separately: a home with open beds may still not have an open Medicaid bed.
Against a benchmark — not a legal minimum. In May 2024 CMS finalized the first federal staffing floor for nursing homes: 3.48 total nurse hours per resident per day, including 0.55 RN hours and 2.45 nurse-aide hours. Its hour requirements never took effect and are no longer on the books. Homes had until 2026 (2027 if rural) to comply, and that deadline never arrived: a federal court vacated the hour requirements in April 2025 (CMS has appealed), Congress then barred enforcement until 2034, and CMS formally repealed them by rule effective February 2026. This home is not required to meet these numbers, and is not violating anything by missing them. We still show the comparison because the figures are CMS’s own published estimate of adequate staffing, which makes them a useful yardstick — but they are our benchmark, not federal law: this home’s total nurse staffing of 3.44 hrs/resident/day is below the 3.48-hour benchmark and RN staffing of 0.56 is at or above the 0.55-hour RN benchmark and nurse-aide staffing of 2.10 is below the 2.45-hour aide benchmark. What federal law does require today is unchanged: “sufficient” nursing staff for residents’ needs and an RN on duty at least 8 consecutive hours a day, 7 days a week (42 CFR 483.35). Those are judged by inspectors on site, not by these averages, so read this comparison alongside the inspection record rather than as a pass/fail.
Weekend coverage: total nurse staffing is 2.93 hrs/resident/day on weekends vs 3.64 on weekdays — 20% thinner on weekends — a notable drop. RN hours go from 0.69 to 0.24 per resident-day. (Payroll-based daily records; the national median home is 15% thinner on weekends.)
This home’s total nursing-staff turnover of 43% is about the same as the national median of 45%.
Payroll-based (PBJ) staffing hours, as reported for Jan–Mar 2026 (CMS PBJ CY2026Q1) — the most recent quarter CMS has published, so they can lag a change of operator or staffing agency. Higher is generally better. Registered-nurse coverage and weekend staffing are the numbers families most often overlook — an RN on site matters most when something goes wrong, and coverage usually thins on weekends. High turnover means residents rarely see the same caregiver twice. One caveat: these are hours as reported, not adjusted for how sick or heavy-care this home’s residents are. CMS separately publishes a case-mix-adjusted view; we show the reported hours. A home caring for higher-acuity residents needs more hours to deliver the same care, so compare these figures against homes doing similar work, and read them next to the inspection record rather than alone.
Inspection trend
Deficiencies are fewer than at the previous inspection — improving. Fewer citations over time suggests a home is fixing problems; a rising count is a warning sign — though two surveys are a short record, and survey teams differ. These counts are from the standard annual health survey only; the full citation list below may also include findings from complaint investigations, so the two won’t always add up.
Inspection deficiencies
State health-inspection citations, most serious first. Each carries an F-code (the federal rule it cites, e.g. F-684 = quality of care) and a letter A–L marking how serious and how widespread the problem was — we translate that grid into the plain tiers shown here. Wording is the official federal description.
Each letter is a CMS scope-severity level; highlighted ones are where this home has citations. A–C = no harm found; D–F = potential for harm; G–I = actual harm; J–L = immediate jeopardy. Within each band the later letter is the more widespread finding (an isolated G is one resident; a widespread I is a pattern), so rightward and downward is worse.
17 citations, most serious first. The 12 most serious are shown; the remaining 5 are one tap away and print in full.
- Actual harm · Gcited before2025-10-28 · tag F0689 — failed to keep residents free of avoidable accidents; supervise adequately — isolatedEnsure that a nursing home area is free from accident hazards and provides adequate supervision to prevent accidents.
What the surveyor found here — an excerpt from the official record, may be distressing
NOTE- TERMS IN BRACKETS HAVE BEEN EDITED TO PROTECT CONFIDENTIALITY Based on record review, resident interview, staff interview, review of the facility investigation, and policy review, the facility failed to ensure Resident #18 was provided adequate supervision to prevent an elopement without staff knowledge. This resulted in Actual harm on 10/22/25 at 2:00 A.M. when Resident #18 was left unattended, eloped from the facility, fell in the parking lot, required Emergency Medical Service (EMS) transport to the hospital, and was diagnosed with a nondisplaced fracture of the nasal bones and a right humerus fracture. This affected one (#18) of three residents reviewed for elopement and falls. The facility census was 71.Review of Resident #18 ' s medical record revealed an admission date of 09/19/22. Diagnoses included unspecified dementia with mood disturbances, schizoaffective disorder bipolar type, delusional disorders, anxiety disorder, major depressive disorder, and insomnia.Review of Resident #18 ' s quarterly Minimum Data Set (MDS) assessment dated [DATE] revealed Resident #18…
This is the beginning of the surveyor’s statement, cut to keep the page readable — the full 2567 continues past this point and often ends with the findings that matter most, such as whether an immediate jeopardy was removed before the surveyors left. The complete statement of deficiencies is a public record: request it from your state survey agency, or ask the home for its 2567 and plan of correction — it must make them available to residents and families.
- Actual harm · Gcited before2025-04-08 · tag F0689 — failed to keep residents free of avoidable accidents; supervise adequately — isolatedEnsure that a nursing home area is free from accident hazards and provides adequate supervision to prevent accidents.
What the surveyor found here — an excerpt from the official record, may be distressing
NOTE- TERMS IN BRACKETS HAVE BEEN EDITED TO PROTECT CONFIDENTIALITY THE FOLLOWING DEFICIENCY REPRESENTS AN INCIDENT OF PAST NON-COMPLIANCE THAT WAS SUBSEQUENTLY CORRECTED PRIOR TO THIS SURVEY. Based on medical record review, staff interview, review of the fall investigation and witness statements, review of the hospital records, review of facility lift inspections, review of the manufacturer recommendations for use, and review of facility policy, the facility failed to ensure a resident was safely transferred by a mechanical lift that was not inspected per manufactures instructions or identified as defective by facility staff. This resulted in Actual Harm on 01/31/25 when Resident #70 was transferred from the bed to her recliner with the mechanical (Hoyer) lift when the lifts shoulder bolt fell out and Resident #70 dropped to the floor landing on top of the lift legs, from approximately four feet in the air. Resident #70 complained of pain in the right leg and right knee. Subsequently, Resident #70 was sent to the local hospital where she was diagnosed with a tibia fracture.…
This is the beginning of the surveyor’s statement, cut to keep the page readable — the full 2567 continues past this point and often ends with the findings that matter most, such as whether an immediate jeopardy was removed before the surveyors left. The complete statement of deficiencies is a public record: request it from your state survey agency, or ask the home for its 2567 and plan of correction — it must make them available to residents and families.
- Potential for harm · D2026-03-16 · tag F0921 — failed to keep a safe, functional, sanitary building — isolatedMake sure that the nursing home area is safe, easy to use, clean and comfortable for residents, staff and the public.
What the surveyor found here — an excerpt from the official record, may be distressing
NOTE- TERMS IN BRACKETS HAVE BEEN EDITED TO PROTECT CONFIDENTIALITY Based on observation, medical record review, staff interview, review of the resident room bathrooms quote, and policy review, the facility failed to ensure a safe, clean, and homelike environment. This affected one (#60) of three residents reviewed for a safe, clean, homelike environment. The facility census was 64. Findings include:Review of the medical record for Resident #60 revealed an admission date of 06/15/21. Diagnoses included Alzheimer's disease, type two diabetes mellitus, pseudobulbar affect, unspecified dementia, and chronic kidney disease.Review of Resident #60's quarterly Minimum Data Set (MDS) assessment dated [DATE] revealed Resident #60 had a memory problem and was dependent for showering/bathing and toileting hygiene.Observation on 03/16/26 at 8:14 A.M. of Resident #60's bathroom in room [ROOM NUMBER] revealed a black substance to be around the base of the toilet. Furthermore, the wood at the bottom of the vanity below the sink appeared to have water damage. The wood had a large hole in which…
This is the beginning of the surveyor’s statement, cut to keep the page readable — the full 2567 continues past this point and often ends with the findings that matter most, such as whether an immediate jeopardy was removed before the surveyors left. The complete statement of deficiencies is a public record: request it from your state survey agency, or ask the home for its 2567 and plan of correction — it must make them available to residents and families.
- Potential for harm · D2026-02-05 · tag F0676 — failed to keep up residents' daily-living abilities — isolatedEnsure residents do not lose the ability to perform activities of daily living unless there is a medical reason.
What the surveyor found here — an excerpt from the official record, may be distressing
NOTE- TERMS IN BRACKETS HAVE BEEN EDITED TO PROTECT CONFIDENTIALITY Based on closed medical record review, staff interview, and review of facility policy, the facility failed to ensure enabler bars were implemented for mobility as assessed by the facility. This affected one (#100) of three residents reviewed for side rails. Findings include:Review of the closed medical record for Resident #100 revealed an admission date of 10/13/25. Diagnoses included cellulitis of both great toes with gangrene, peripheral vascular disease (PVD), bacteremia (infection of a bacteria in the blood), significant coronary artery disease, heart failure with preserved ejection fraction (type of heart failure where the hearts main pumping chamber is stiff and does not fill and pump efficiently), end stage renal disease (ESRD) requiring hemodialysis (kidney failure where dialysis is required to sustain life), chronic combine systolic and diastolic congestive heart failure (CHF) (where both the right and left side of the heart is not functioning properly), angina (chest pain), and multiple coronary stent…
This is the beginning of the surveyor’s statement, cut to keep the page readable — the full 2567 continues past this point and often ends with the findings that matter most, such as whether an immediate jeopardy was removed before the surveyors left. The complete statement of deficiencies is a public record: request it from your state survey agency, or ask the home for its 2567 and plan of correction — it must make them available to residents and families.
- Potential for harm · F2025-07-31 · tag F0926 — failed to keep the home smoke-free / fire-safe — widespreadHave policies on smoking.
What the surveyor found here — the official record, unedited, may be distressing
Based on observation, staff interview and facility policy review, the facility failed to provide a safe smoking area for all residents. This affected all residents in the facility. The census was 66.Observation on 07/30/25 at 10:55 A.M. revealed smoking shack did not have designed smoking times posted to enable nonsmokers to avoid the area during the posted times. There were also numerous cigarette butts on the ground outside the smoke shack, on the concrete and in the landscaping mulch, and one half smoked cigarette beside the ashtray receptacle in the smoke shack. Interview with Director of Nursing (DON) on 07/30/25 at 11:00 A.M. confirmed no smoking times were posted and numerous cigarette butts were on the ground.Review of the undated policy titled Smoking-Resident policy revealed the designated smoking area will be posted with proper signage designated the area as a smoking area and include the designated smoking times to enable nonsmokers to avoid the are during the posted times.
- Potential for harm · Ecited before2025-07-31 · tag F0689 — failed to keep residents free of avoidable accidents; supervise adequately — patternEnsure that a nursing home area is free from accident hazards and provides adequate supervision to prevent accidents.
What the surveyor found here — an excerpt from the official record, may be distressing
NOTE- TERMS IN BRACKETS HAVE BEEN EDITED TO PROTECT CONFIDENTIALITY Based on observation, staff interview, review of facility water temperature logs, and review of the facility policy, the facility failed to maintain safe water temperatures. This had the potential to affect all residents residing on the 300-hall (Resident #6, #8, #9, #19, #21, #22, #26, #30, #34, #35, #50, #55, #56, #58, #60, #62, #65, #67, and #71), all residents residing on the 400-hall (#5, #12, #13, #14, #20, #23, #27, #32, #68, and #69) and residents residing in room [ROOM NUMBER]. The facility census was 66.Review of the facility's hot water temperature logs for 07/02/25 through 07/24/25, revealed on 07/09/25 the hot water temperature in room [ROOM NUMBER] was 127 degrees Fahrenheit, the hot water temperature in room [ROOM NUMBER] was 128 degrees Fahrenheit, and the hot water temperature in room [ROOM NUMBER] was 124 degrees Fahrenheit. On 07/24/25, the hot water temperature in room [ROOM NUMBER] was 123 degrees Fahrenheit, the hot water temperature in room [ROOM NUMBER] was 122 degrees Fahrenheit, the hot…
This is the beginning of the surveyor’s statement, cut to keep the page readable — the full 2567 continues past this point and often ends with the findings that matter most, such as whether an immediate jeopardy was removed before the surveyors left. The complete statement of deficiencies is a public record: request it from your state survey agency, or ask the home for its 2567 and plan of correction — it must make them available to residents and families.
- Potential for harm · Dcited before2025-07-31 · tag F0695 — failed to provide proper breathing / tracheostomy care — isolatedProvide safe and appropriate respiratory care for a resident when needed.
What the surveyor found here — an excerpt from the official record, may be distressing
NOTE- TERMS IN BRACKETS HAVE BEEN EDITED TO PROTECT CONFIDENTIALITY Based on observation, record review, facility staff interview, and facility policy review, the facility failed to follow physician's order for oxygen administration. This affected two residents (#34 and #28) out of nine residents identified to received oxygen at the facility. The facility census was 66.Review of medical record for Resident #34 revealed admission date of 04/03/25. The resident was admitted with diagnoses of Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease (COPD), bipolar disorder and neuromuscular dysfunction of bladder.The Minimum Data Set (MDS) dated [DATE] revealed Resident #34 had a Brief Interview Mental Status (BIMS) score of 13 indicating no impaired cognition. Resident #34 was dependent for meals, dependent with toileting hygiene, bed mobility and transfers.Review of the physician orders dated 05/30/25 revealed continuous oxygen at 1 liter per minute via nasal cannula. Indicated for COPD exacerbation. Keep Resident #34's oxygen saturation level above 90 percent (%) and check twice a day.Observation…
This is the beginning of the surveyor’s statement, cut to keep the page readable — the full 2567 continues past this point and often ends with the findings that matter most, such as whether an immediate jeopardy was removed before the surveyors left. The complete statement of deficiencies is a public record: request it from your state survey agency, or ask the home for its 2567 and plan of correction — it must make them available to residents and families.
- Potential for harm · Dcited before2025-07-31 · tag F0880 — failed to prevent and control infections — isolatedProvide and implement an infection prevention and control program.
What the surveyor found here — the official record, unedited, may be distressing
Based on observation, facility staff interview, and facility policy review, the facility failed to ensure infection control standards were implemented and maintained during medication administration. This affected one (Resident #62) of four residents observed for medication administration. The facility census was 66.Observation of medication pass on 07/29/25 at 8:59 A.M. revealed Licensed Practical Nurse (LPN) #512 was observed entering Resident #21 room, placed right hand on resident's shoulder, then returned to the medication cart to pull medication for Resident #62. LPN #512 did not sanitize hands between tasks. Interview with (LPN) #512 at 9:10 A.M. confirmed no hand sanitization was complete in between medication pass between Resident #21 and Resident #62.Review of policy titled Medication Administration-General Guidelines, dated May 2020, revealed hand sanitation is to be completed when returning to medication cart and regular intervals during medication pass such as after each room.
- Potential for harm · F2024-01-29 · tag F0812 — failed to store, cook, and serve food safely — widespreadProcure food from sources approved or considered satisfactory and store, prepare, distribute and serve food in accordance with professional standards.
What the surveyor found here — an excerpt from the official record, may be distressing
Based on observation, staff interview, and policy review, the facility failed to store refrigerated food properly. This had the potential to affect all 69 residents in the facility who received food from the kitchen. Findings include: Observation of the walk-in refrigerator on 01/22/24 at 8:00 A.M. revealed there was a large metal tray labeled meat loaf that was uncooked on the top shelf over the drinks stored in carafes. There was also observed a small metal rectangle pan of brown liquid that was unlabeled and undated, a small metal rectangle pan of what appeared to be cooked meat with grease on top that was not dated or labeled, and a large metal tray of what appeared to be meatloaf that had been served but was not labeled or dated. Interview with Dietary Manager (DM) #177 on 01/22/24 at 8:15 A.M. confirmed there was meatloaf thawing that was on the top shelf and over drinks, DM #177 stated the meatloaf should be on the bottom shelf and not over other food/drink items. DM #177 also verified the three undated unlabeled metal containers not labeled or dated. DM #177 stated these…
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- Potential for harm · D2024-01-29 · tag F0567 — failed to protect residents' money held by the home — isolatedHonor the resident's right to manage his or her financial affairs.
What the surveyor found here — an excerpt from the official record, may be distressing
Based on observation, family and staff interview, and record review, the facility failed to ensure funds were accessible seven days a week. This affected one (Resident #14) of five residents reviewed for Personal Needs Accounts (PNA). The facility identified 36 residents with PNA. The facility census was 69. Findings include: Review of the medical record for Resident #14 revealed an admission date of 11/11/22. Diagnoses included dementia without behavioral disturbances. Resident #14's granddaughter was listed as the emergency contact, responsible party, resident representative, and primary financial contact for Resident #14. Review of the quarterly Minimum Data Set (MDS) 3.0 assessment, dated 12/01/23, revealed Resident #14 had severely impaired cognition. Review of Resident #14's Personal Needs Account (PNA) revealed Resident #14's granddaughter had signed an authorization on 12/05/22 for the facility to manage funds for Resident #14. Resident #14 had a balance of $149.58 as of 01/16/24. Observation of an undated sign posted on the desk of the business office manager and visible…
This is the beginning of the surveyor’s statement, cut to keep the page readable — the full 2567 continues past this point and often ends with the findings that matter most, such as whether an immediate jeopardy was removed before the surveyors left. The complete statement of deficiencies is a public record: request it from your state survey agency, or ask the home for its 2567 and plan of correction — it must make them available to residents and families.
- Potential for harm · D2024-01-29 · tag F0609 — failed to report abuse allegations — isolatedTimely report suspected abuse, neglect, or theft and report the results of the investigation to proper authorities.
What the surveyor found here — an excerpt from the official record, may be distressing
NOTE- TERMS IN BRACKETS HAVE BEEN EDITED TO PROTECT CONFIDENTIALITY Based on medical record review, review of the Ohio board of nursing licensure verification system, review of a personnel file, review of the facilities policies, resident and staff interviews, and review of the facility's Self-Reported Incidents (SRI), the facility failed to timely report allegations of misappropriation of resident's narcotic medications. This affected one (Resident #22) of 24 residents reviewed for abuse. The facility census was 69. Findings include: Review of Resident #22's medical record revealed an admission to the facility occurred on 12/04/21. Diagnoses included post polio syndrome, arthritis, high blood pressure, and diabetes mellitus. Review of the quarterly Minimum Data Set (MDS) assessment dated [DATE] revealed Resident #22 was cognitively intact. Interview with Resident #22 on 01/23/24 at 10:29 A.M. confirmed he used to work in the medical field and had a concerning incident with Licensed Practical Nurse (LPN) #140. Resident #22 stated LPN #140 had attempted one evening to give him…
This is the beginning of the surveyor’s statement, cut to keep the page readable — the full 2567 continues past this point and often ends with the findings that matter most, such as whether an immediate jeopardy was removed before the surveyors left. The complete statement of deficiencies is a public record: request it from your state survey agency, or ask the home for its 2567 and plan of correction — it must make them available to residents and families.
- Potential for harm · D2024-01-29 · tag F0677 — failed to help fully-dependent residents with daily care — isolatedProvide care and assistance to perform activities of daily living for any resident who is unable.
What the surveyor found here — an excerpt from the official record, may be distressing
NOTE- TERMS IN BRACKETS HAVE BEEN EDITED TO PROTECT CONFIDENTIALITY Based on observations, medical record review, review of the facility policy, and resident and staff interviews, the facility failed to ensure the residents who were dependent on staff for activities of daily living (ADL) received the assistance with shaving. This affected two (Residents #22 and #52) of three residents reviewed for ADL care. The facility census was 69. Findings include: 1. Review of Resident #22's medical record revealed an admission to the facility occurred on 12/04/21. Diagnoses included post polio syndrome, arthritis, high blood pressure, and diabetes mellitus. Review of Resident #22's plan of care, dated 03/23/22, revealed the staff were to provide assistance with all ADL care and mobility as needed/ anticipate resident needs as able and to assist with and/or shave facial hairs everyday or per resident preference. Review of the quarterly Minimum Data Set (MDS) assessment dated [DATE] revealed Resident #22 was cognitively intact. Resident #22 was dependent on staff for ADLs, including shaving…
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- Potential for harm · Dcited before2024-01-29 · tag F0695 — failed to provide proper breathing / tracheostomy care — isolatedProvide safe and appropriate respiratory care for a resident when needed.
What the surveyor found here — an excerpt from the official record, may be distressing
NOTE- TERMS IN BRACKETS HAVE BEEN EDITED TO PROTECT CONFIDENTIALITY Based on observations, medical record review, and staff interviews, the facility failed to ensure a resident received oxygen therapy as physician ordered. This affected one (Resident #22) of one resident reviewed for respiratory services. The facility census was 69. Findings include: Review of Resident #22's medical record revealed an admission to the facility occurred on 12/04/21. Diagnoses included with post polio syndrome, high blood pressure, and pneumonia. Review of the quarterly Minimum Data Set (MDS) assessment dated [DATE] revealed Resident #22 was cognitively intact. Review of Resident #22's current physician orders for 01/2024 revealed an order for oxygen to be administered at two liters via nasal cannula, and have humidifier placed on oxygen. Observations of Resident #22 on 01/22/24 at 9:37 A.M. and 12:13 P.M. revealed Resident #22 was receiving oxygen from a concentrator that the tubing was plugged directly into. The observation identified there was no humidification bottle as ordered by the…
This is the beginning of the surveyor’s statement, cut to keep the page readable — the full 2567 continues past this point and often ends with the findings that matter most, such as whether an immediate jeopardy was removed before the surveyors left. The complete statement of deficiencies is a public record: request it from your state survey agency, or ask the home for its 2567 and plan of correction — it must make them available to residents and families.
- Potential for harm · D2024-01-29 · tag F0755 — failed to provide safe pharmacy services — isolatedProvide pharmaceutical services to meet the needs of each resident and employ or obtain the services of a licensed pharmacist.
What the surveyor found here — an excerpt from the official record, may be distressing
NOTE- TERMS IN BRACKETS HAVE BEEN EDITED TO PROTECT CONFIDENTIALITY Based on staff and resident interview, record review, and policy review, the facility failed to ensure controlled medications were accurately recorded as being received by Residents #30 and #66. This affected two (Resident #30 and #66) of nine residents reviewed for medications. The facility census was 69. Findings include: 1. Review of the medical record for Resident #66 revealed an admission date of 12/16/23 and a discharge date of 01/05/24. Diagnoses included a trochanteric fracture of the left femur (hip fracture), a fracture of the lower end of the left radius (wrist), osteoarthritis, and anxiety. Review of the Minimum Data Set (MDS) 3.0 discharge return anticipated assessment, dated 01/05/24, revealed Resident #66 had intact cognition. Resident #66 experienced pain rating of an eight out of ten on a frequent basis, and the pain frequently made it difficult to sleep at night. Review of Resident #66's physician's orders revealed an order dated 12/27/23 for Hydrocodone-acetaminophen (APAP) 5-325 mg (a…
This is the beginning of the surveyor’s statement, cut to keep the page readable — the full 2567 continues past this point and often ends with the findings that matter most, such as whether an immediate jeopardy was removed before the surveyors left. The complete statement of deficiencies is a public record: request it from your state survey agency, or ask the home for its 2567 and plan of correction — it must make them available to residents and families.
- Potential for harm · Ecited before2021-05-17 · tag F0689 — failed to keep residents free of avoidable accidents; supervise adequately — patternEnsure that a nursing home area is free from accident hazards and provides adequate supervision to prevent accidents.
What the surveyor found here — an excerpt from the official record, may be distressing
Based on observations, staff interview, review of the facility water temperature log and policy, the facility failed to maintain safe hot water temperatures between 105 degrees Fahrenheit (F) and 120 degrees F. This had the potential to affect four (#45, #58, #31 and #16) randomly observed residents room with elevated hot water temperature readings. Facility census was 67. Findings include: Observation of water temperatures in a public bathroom on in south side of the facility on 05/11/21 at 9:10 A.M. revealed the water temperature was 125 degrees F`. Temperature checks were completed with the Housekeeping Supervisor #500 with a facility thermometer on 05/12/21 between 9:55 A.M. and 10:23 A.M. Water temperatures proved to be elevated with a water temperature reading of 126.9 degrees F in Resident #45 and #58's room. The water temperature in Resident #31 and #16's room was 125.3 degrees F. These temperatures were taken and verified by Housekeeping Supervisor #500. Interview with Housekeeping Supervisor #500 on 05/13/21 at 8:55 A.M. revealed she took over the position temporary…
This is the beginning of the surveyor’s statement, cut to keep the page readable — the full 2567 continues past this point and often ends with the findings that matter most, such as whether an immediate jeopardy was removed before the surveyors left. The complete statement of deficiencies is a public record: request it from your state survey agency, or ask the home for its 2567 and plan of correction — it must make them available to residents and families.
- Potential for harm · Dcited before2021-05-17 · tag F0695 — failed to provide proper breathing / tracheostomy care — isolatedProvide safe and appropriate respiratory care for a resident when needed.
What the surveyor found here — an excerpt from the official record, may be distressing
NOTE- TERMS IN BRACKETS HAVE BEEN EDITED TO PROTECT CONFIDENTIALITY Based on medical record review, observation, resident and staff interviews and review of the facility policy, the facility failed to ensure oxygen tubing was labeled and dated. This affected three (#34, #41, #61) of three residents reviewed for oxygen therapy. Facility census was 67. Findings included: 1. Review of Resident #34's medical record revealed an admission date of 05/10/18. Diagnoses included pneumonia, emphysema, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), asthma, personal history of transient ischemic attack and chronic kidney disease. Review of Resident #34's annual Minimum Data Set (MDS) assessment dated [DATE] revealed the resident had a high cognitive function. The resident also received oxygen therapy. Review of Resident #34's most recent care plan revealed the resident had the potential for alteration in respiratory function related to emphysema, COPD, and hypoxia. Interventions included to administer oxygen as ordered. Review of Resident #34's medical record revealed a physician's order…
This is the beginning of the surveyor’s statement, cut to keep the page readable — the full 2567 continues past this point and often ends with the findings that matter most, such as whether an immediate jeopardy was removed before the surveyors left. The complete statement of deficiencies is a public record: request it from your state survey agency, or ask the home for its 2567 and plan of correction — it must make them available to residents and families.
- Potential for harm · Dcited before2021-05-17 · tag F0880 — failed to prevent and control infections — isolatedProvide and implement an infection prevention and control program.
What the surveyor found here — an excerpt from the official record, may be distressing
Based on medical record review, observation, staff interview and policy review, the facility failed to ensure soiled linens were properly placed in a bag or container and transferred to the laundry. This had the potential to affect one (#6) out of 32 residents sampled during the survey. Facility census was 67. Findings include: Review of the medical record for Resident #6 revealed an admission date of 10/09/18. Diagnoses included type two diabetes, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease and, polyneuropathy. Observation on 05/10/21 at 11:24 A.M., of Resident #6's bathroom floor with soiled towels, wash clothes and bed pad laying on the bathroom floor and not placed in a container or plastic bag. The soiled linens on the bathroom floor was verified with the Housekeeping Supervisor #505. Interview on 05/12/21 at 1:48 P.M. with the Assistant Director of Nursing (ADON) #100 revealed are not to be on the floor they are to be placed in a plastic bag and sent to the laundry. Review of the facility policy titled Laundry and Bedding, Soiled, undated, revealed it is the facility's policy that…
This is the beginning of the surveyor’s statement, cut to keep the page readable — the full 2567 continues past this point and often ends with the findings that matter most, such as whether an immediate jeopardy was removed before the surveyors left. The complete statement of deficiencies is a public record: request it from your state survey agency, or ask the home for its 2567 and plan of correction — it must make them available to residents and families.
“Cited before” means this same F-tag appears on at least one other survey date in the record we hold — counting complaint investigations as well as standard surveys, with no time limit. It is our own read of the data, not CMS’s: CMS uses repeat deficiency as a formal term tied to consecutive standard surveys, and that is a narrower test than this one. A tag marked here may or may not meet it.
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- Adult Protective Services — the state agency that investigates suspected abuse, neglect, or exploitation of a vulnerable adult. Not sure of your state’s APS number? The federal Eldercare Locator will route you: 1-800-677-1116 or eldercare.acl.gov.
- State survey agency — the regulator that licenses and inspects the home. Every state has an official nursing-home complaint line and most take complaints online; the Ombudsman or Eldercare Locator can connect you.
Fines & penalties
$26,685 in federal fines across 1 penalty.
- $26,685 — penalty dated 2026-01-07
Dates are the dates CMS records the penalty, not the date of the conduct behind it. CMS publishes penalties on a rolling window, so this is what is currently on the public file — not the home’s lifetime history, and an older fine may attach to a problem that has since been corrected. The amounts are as imposed: the CMS file does not record whether a penalty was appealed, reduced, or paid, so we don’t say. Ask the home what each one was for and what changed since.
Part of a chain
This home belongs to ALTERCARE — 22 facilities. Here is how its ratings compare with the chain’s average across all its homes: See the whole chain — ratings, flags, fines and finances →
| Rating | This home | Chain avg | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Overall | 4 of 5 | 3.3 | +0.7 vs chain |
| Health inspection | 3 of 5 | 2.7 | +0.3 vs chain |
| Staffing | 2 of 5 | 2.3 | -0.3 vs chain |
| Quality measures | 5 of 5 | 4.8 | +0.2 vs chain |
The other 21 homes this chain runs (chain average 3.3★, per CMS)
A home rated well below its chain’s average can signal local problems; a chain with a low average across the board is a bigger pattern worth researching. CMS chain data under-reports private-equity and REIT ownership, so treat this as a floor, not the full picture.
Who owns this facility
| Owner / manager | Type | Role | Share | Since |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| TSG NURSING CENTERS, INC | Organization | 5% OR GREATER DIRECT OWNERSHIP INTEREST | 100% | since 12/13/2002 |
| GERALD F SCHROER DYNASTY TR UA 12312009 FBO ANDREW M SCHROER | Organization | 5% OR GREATER INDIRECT OWNERSHIP INTEREST | NO PERCENTAGE PROVIDED | since 12/15/2015 |
| GERALD F SCHROER DYNASTY TR UA 12312009 FBO GERALD F SCHROER JR | Organization | 5% OR GREATER INDIRECT OWNERSHIP INTEREST | NO PERCENTAGE PROVIDED | since 12/15/2015 |
| GERALD F SCHROER DYNASTY TR UA 12312009 FBO MATTHEW SCHROER | Organization | 5% OR GREATER INDIRECT OWNERSHIP INTEREST | NO PERCENTAGE PROVIDED | since 12/15/2015 |
| GERALD F SCHROER DYNASTY TR UA 12312009 MARGARET S GOODMAN | Organization | 5% OR GREATER INDIRECT OWNERSHIP INTEREST | NO PERCENTAGE PROVIDED | since 12/15/2015 |
| SUSANNE SCHROER DYNASTY TRUST U/A | Organization | 5% OR GREATER INDIRECT OWNERSHIP INTEREST | NO PERCENTAGE PROVIDED | since 12/15/2015 |
| THE SCHROER GROUP, INC. | Organization | 5% OR GREATER INDIRECT OWNERSHIP INTEREST | NO PERCENTAGE PROVIDED | since 10/01/2001 |
| MILBRANDT, MICHAEL | Individual | W-2 MANAGING EMPLOYEE; CORPORATE OFFICER | — | since 12/15/2015 |
| MOCK, DOUGLAS | Individual | W-2 MANAGING EMPLOYEE; CORPORATE DIRECTOR; CORPORATE OFFICER | — | since 09/20/2021 |
| FILM, GEORGE | Individual | CORPORATE OFFICER | — | since 08/01/2018 |
| GOODMAN, JOHN | Individual | CORPORATE OFFICER | — | since 05/15/2003 |
| JOHNSON, KATHY | Individual | CORPORATE OFFICER | — | since 01/10/2010 |
| NUTTER, ORIAN | Individual | CORPORATE OFFICER | — | since 10/01/2021 |
| ALTERCARE OF OHIO, INC | Organization | OPERATIONAL/MANAGERIAL CONTROL | — | since 10/01/2001 |
CMS files one row per role, so the 17 rows in the source record cover these 14 parties — each is shown once here with every role it holds. Nothing is omitted.
8 organizational owners listed — a facility can be part of a larger chain. CMS ownership data is known to under-report private-equity and REIT ties; treat as a starting point.
Follow the money — this home’s finances
Where a nursing home’s revenue comes from and where it goes — including money paid to companies under the same ownership. Most consumer sites never show this; we reproduce it straight from the Medicare cost report.
This home reported $872K paid to related parties — landlords or management companies under common ownership — equal to about 12% of its total expenses. Money routed to affiliated companies can leave a home’s own books looking lean while owners still profit; it is the mechanism regulators watch most closely in private-equity and REIT deals.
Source: CMS Healthcare Provider Cost Reporting Information System (HCRIS), Medicare cost report Form CMS-2540 · fiscal year 2023. Facilities self-file these reports; figures are unaudited and a year or two behind. A home with no Medicare cost report on file shows no figures here.
Cost & finances
Straight from this home’s Medicare cost report (CMS, FY2023). These are its operating economics — what it costs to run per resident-day and what it collects on average across Medicare, Medicaid, and private pay — not a private-pay quote. Your out-of-pocket cost depends on payer and room type, so ask the facility directly; a higher operating cost can reflect richer staffing or a sicker population. The cost-of-care planner shows regional benchmarks by care type.
What families pay in OH
This is a Medicare- and Medicaid-certified nursing home, so it can accept Medicaid for long-term care — like nearly all U.S. nursing homes. The private-pay figures below are what families without Medicaid pay; once a resident qualifies for Medicaid, out-of-pocket cost for covered nursing-home care is typically close to $0 (almost all of their income goes to the home as their share of the cost; they keep a small personal needs allowance — for clothing, haircuts, a phone — and Medicaid pays the rest). The amount of that allowance is set by each state. Confirm Medicaid-bed availability with the home, and see the Ohio Medicaid page.
Median private-pay cost, CareScout (Genworth) 2025 Cost of Care Survey — a regional midpoint, not any single community’s rate. Private rooms and higher care levels cost more; ask for a current quote. Project your own in the cost-of-care planner.
Every figure above is reproduced from the CMS Provider Data Catalog (a public record), from the CMS extract processed 2026-08-01 — CMS provider number 365625. CMS refreshes its data monthly, and the star rating rests on the last standard inspection — dated 2025-07-31, which can lag current conditions. Staffing hours are CMS PBJ CY2026Q1 (Jan–Mar 2026). Check this record against the government’s own page for it: this home on Medicare Care Compare ↗ — the authoritative source, and the place to confirm anything here before you act on it. How we present it →
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